It didn't make since to me but went ahead and planed the butt section the way it was listed. The taper I used was from "The Lovely Reed." I have modified these tapers to adjust them for what I think is a more modern feel. So far everyone that has put the numbers up on Russ Goodings 7613 LT has listed 19 measurements. Typically it is a heavy tip section combined with a light butt section. I've built this one which was posted to the rodmaker's listserv years ago. It was considerably more effortless to use than my colleagues 8'6'' to 9' supposedly #4 carbons. . Lyle Dickerson tapered copies Lyle Dickerson (1892-1981) has long been known as a pioneer in rodbuilding, due partly to his use of machinery in production but primarily appreciated by fishermen for many of his fast and accurate taper designs. Even if you take off 0.006 for varnish, in case that wasnt done, its still a 7 1/2 wt. 2 piece. 5 0.088 112541 At Headwaters Bamboo Rod Company we build our rods based on proven "historical" tapers, meaning that the tapers we use were designed by Twentieth Century bamboo fly rod craftsmen. I'm not familiar with Tom Fulk's true arc taper. It's been my experience that a straight taper can be a very nice rod when designed correctly; for example a 4wt with a tip of 0.068 and a station rise of 0.013. I will assume that you have calculated those several effects correctly, although I see no details. (Will McMurrey), A picture says a thousand words. Looking at the 5" dimensions for the Dickerson 7613 (1970 taper), there is a big swell under the grip. His total production was fewer than 1,000 rods. A taper is a fishing rod term that defines the rod length, optimal line weight, and rod flex action. Here are the numbers someone else posted earlier this year for the Dickerson 8014 GS. 35 .188 .332 Standard Tapers Two-piece with two tips, bag and aluminum tube Price : $1099 Custom Tapers Two-piece with two tips, bag and aluminum tube Price : $1199 - $1399 Just a topic to ponder on these slow summer days. I'm probably going to have to find a use for one as it happens as a design for a 7'6'' #4 that is nearing ringing looks a bit beefy for a #4. All Rights Reserved. (Will Price), I have noticed several folks mention the Dickerson 8014. This is the second invitation to fish Michigan, and I thank you sincerely for it. To accomplish this I have added bamboo to compensate for the ferrule and the Varnish & Guides.. Interesting thoughts on line weight and the first 20", I will have to roll that one around in my head for awhile. I have looked on the Rodmakers site under tapers and it is not listed. This system could also be very helpful to understand why a classic taper feels the way it feels. 25 .232 .115 Don't you find short rods a problem on those splendid Yorkshire chalk streams? (Frank Stetzer, Hexrod, Taper Archive, Rodmakers Archive), I'm grateful to you for that point because a recent post referred to straight taper Garrisons and I wonder if he meant straight stress "curves". As Will predicts, this is a very pleasant and easy rod to cast. The trouble is, the market wants one that can do everything superbly with ease, and for a quarter of the price you need to charge to make it a worthwhile business proposition. Parabolic is a marketing term and thus entirely meaningless in discussions on rod design. You simply have to then adjust the rate of change of the taper - the rise. It throws up some very interesting facts. 2 wt 0.0585 I would be very interested in hearing what you have to say about the differences between the two tapers. I really must stir myself to come and fish them, it's time that's the enemy. Great conversation. Inevitably, if part of the strain is caused by rings ferrules and varnish, as it must be, then its resultant effect will detract from the weight of line that rod will cast. The tip tapers are the only redeeming feature of his designs, and now you tell me they were not deliberate, I'll burn my copy of "The Book" immediately, at least I shall be spared tolerating toadying references to "Garry" when ever (very seldom, in fact) I refer to it! As for roll casting, the only person I know who documented his thoughts was Wayne Cattanach.. I only use short rods on overgrown streams. All 5wt with identical terminal tip and butt dimensions. (Will McMurrey), Just very briefly, a Castle Connell taper is a good example, where you have a curious reverse taper in the upper part of the lower half of the rod. Dickerson 8014 Fred Bears Rod, 2606 -1. by avyoung 06/17/16 04:49, Post Variations below this point have more to do with the character of the rod than the line weight. 65 0.248 134403 Its definitely a bigger water rod that the 7613. The taper on David Ray's site is an 861711D. All but the parabolic and the hinge will have the same ferrule dimension so tips and butt sections can be interchanged to create any of the major taper variations. 0.102 0.266 48 .224 .375, I don't know how Banjo arrived at the measurements under the grip and reel seat. Lyle Dickerson (1892-1981) has long been known as a pioneer in rodbuilding, due partly to his use of machinery in production but primarily appreciated by fishermen for many of his fast and accurate taper designs. Pickard makes nice rods for sure. I don't disagree with any one here in fact I think you are all correct. All rights reserved. You can build this rod and have a neutral action rod (my term). All measurements were taken over varnish. In the hands of a good caster, this taper will make a fly line do things that amaze. OK, the rod was a Paul Young Perfectionist. 15 0.115 163502 (Robin Haywood). Is that the 1949 or the 1951 version? Over the time I have made rods. Different tools for doing different things. The two different numbers are for the tip and the butt of the rod. Mystic Outdoors is the premier manufacturer of high-performance fly fishing equipment for new anglers and seasoned veterans alike. Good question and I will tell you as soon as I finish my 5wt SLT. Dickerson 8014 8' 5wt. Lyle Dickerson's famed taper. You can built say a 5wt using a 13/64 ferrule and any of these slopes, and they'll all be 5 weights, but if you do the math you'll see that the tip dimensions would vary greatly. ), Then as it was, then again it will be. I use it as my Hex rod & for throwing big streamers. At the Grayling gathering, Bill Harms gave a presentation of Marinaro's approach to rod design. I am assuming this is an unvarnished rod. 0.189 ever wonder why all those 10 1/2/64 Heddons broke at the female ferrule? I have thougt of the 8013, as a 5 weight. All of the Dickerson tapers I have made using Super Zs have been great. Suggest that you subtract .006 for varnish. In fact, as the requirements of a stream rod are very simple, this is what we do. I want to build a rod that does what a Dickerson 7613 does when casting and fished. I assume that he extrapolated those measurements. Tel: 802-362-3300, Summer (Jerry Foster), Where do you get that? I think it is a fantastic taper. Lyle Dickerson (Michigan) (Will Price), You can adapt the taper that calls for a step down by putting a slight swell at the male ferrule end of the taper so that a super Z or super Swiss ferrule will work properly. by wefishcane 05/08/09 02:55, Post 0.206 20 .140 .298 Some rods might in fact be best with a line weight that falls between two designated ones eg. 30 .174 .322 (Will McMurrey). $239.00 + $24.95 shipping (2) Vintage HEDDON PAL Casting Rods - #6277 Wormer 5'6"+ #6273 Musky Special 5' . I hope this helps you out some, they are actually all nice rods, but as I said there is a little different in line sizes. The rod in question has a test curve of 4 ozs, by the way. Stress curves are an integral part of this process and have to be evaluated. I'll give you a bit of background on the question. The rest of the shown increase is, in my opinion, just for looks. So now where do you add or subtract material and what effect will it have on the rod. The stepdown in the male is from a 14/64 ID where the ferrule initially goes over the bamboo and steps down to 12/64 ID for the bamboo inside of the male slide. Easy casting and very versatile. Has anyone cast both 1949 and 1951 versions of the Dickerson 8013 as described in Howell's book? Besides, he's a fun guy to chat with about almost anything to do with fly fishing and the outdoors. In the local streams we suffer the length to enable some sort of roll cast, but use #4 or #3 lines. bamboo fly rod blank (two-piece single tip) - Proof Fly Fishing 6'6" 2wt. It might depend, but only a bit, on what you call "very nice" and I see that your figure for station rise was almost exactly the figure I suggested. 0.120 BTW, Paul, different strokes for different folks. (Will Price), Is not 7'6'' a bit short for a five weight? I like Paynes too! The butt has a long flex area from 45"- 75" and a butt swell. All Dickerson copies include Dickerson aesthetics, blued ferrules & an agate stripping guide if desired. (Jimmy Chang), I have made rods using both tapers. So far all those posted were missing the 1st station on the butt section. I can always build another and I'm sure I will. Lyle Dickerson (1892-1981) has long been known as a pioneer in rodbuilding, due partly to his use of machinery in production but primarily appreciated by fishermen for many of his fast and accurate taper designs. 0.088 Thanks for posting the Dickerson 861711 taper. That's the "raw cane" numbers. He was known for using only one or two strips from a culm, a time-consuming and expensive way to build rods. The 6611 has a swelled butt unlike many versions I've seen and is an especially sweet rod. Listed as 7 wt but that seems kinda heavy? My original Dickerson is an 861711D dated 1936. Information About Makers and Manufacturers, Appraisals & Identification of Bamboo Fly Rods. 10 0.101 154505 Bill said that the book he has written on the subject is going to the printers and should be out soon.. (No financial interest.) Most of the ones I have made and sold are the PHY Perfectionist taper. I cannot come up with an application for a 7'6''#5, with its inherent disadvantages for roll casting. This rod consists of medium tempered cane constructed in a 3x3 node pattern with Dickerson tan wraps and black tipping. (Matthew French), Different rods, the 8014 is a true 6wt, the 8014G (G stands for guide) is a heavier rod, a point and shoot, no false cast, lay out a ton of line type rod. 0.288 0.360 (Tim Pembroke). In the end I don't want to necessarily build a Dickerson 7613. I think the perfectionist is a fine taper and rod. I recently sold a rod to a customer blind on the phone. The ID of the female ferrule where it accepts the male slide is .187", or 12/64. All sections are full length and straight. Still looking for a guide to hire for a striper trip to the Bay. that drop is a hallmark of all 2pc dickerson tapers. The 7012 HB is super light, and can cast with the best of them. We all have devices to try to self describe tapers. There are some differences between their tapers and line sizes, however they are all somewhat medium fast. It is obviously also extremely useful to compare one rod with others at the same time. They did not understand that a slow taper pole will bend near the point of grip under stress, whereas a fast taper will bend increasingly towards the tip as the rate of taper increases. Hardy Fly Fishing Rod Trout Fishing Rods & Poles 8 Guides, Hardy Fly Reel Trout Fishing Reels, Hardy Trout Fishing Rods & Poles, All Dickerson copies include Dickerson aesthetics, blued ferrules & an agate stripping guide. The American Museum of Fly Fishing Collection (Mark Wendt), Dickerson (like all of us who draw their own tubing) used 1/64 wall tubing to construct his ferrules. Fast Dickerson 7613 - 7'6" 2pc Special Note on this rod/ All the snake guides on the tip are 2/0 and the mid are 1/0 with a 8 stripper on butt section. They are very nice 5 weights ( IMHO it is THE 8 5 wt). The American Museum of Fly Fishing Collection Gift of . I have had my rod alongside an original and except for mine being new they were identical. And you are of course correct in pointing out that stress numbers means nothing without the particulars of the line weight and length. I have fit the ferrules but not glued them up yet. I search on Google and didn't come up with anything. and .360@45. As Lou points out, it is nicest with the kind of ferrule Dickerson made himself. A lot goes into crafting a bamboo fly rod and here you can learn more about our approach. Its a very useful exercise. Dickersons original taper was as Mark stated and a true 5 wt. 55 0.2275 0.288 Made several of them. Right, I've printed that off and made a brief study. I just wanted to make the point that there's a difference between a rod with a straight taper and one with a straight, flat stress curve. (Greg Holland), Who knows, he may have just been responding to a client request, presume he had to eat. I'm not sure why you don't like Garrison, nor his tapers, but you can have your own opinions as can everyone else. $95.00 0.256 Casting range allows for some delicacy up close and personal, to the times that you want to reach out and touch someone a bit further away. (If memory serves me right Tony Young sells step down ferrules for Dickerson rods, so you may try that.) If you would like to give Michigan a try, let me know. by Mike McGuire 06/16/16 23:29, Post 0.350 Anyway, far too few people concern themselves over what should be the staple obsession of every rodmaker-design. Halstead. Both tapers conform to the shape broadly called parabolic and thus will have the shortcomings that all rods of this misconceived taper share. The last tip measurement (that goes into the male ferrule) is .204. Gift of Heidi Bedford, Yearc. Your statement that "if you want to make overweight rods with unnecessarily heavy tips and relatively floppy butts then straight tapers will deliver. .but like most opinions you will find that many on this list (and in the world at large) are not going to agree with you. Bill Wara. We will see how it turns out. (Mark Wendt), Well, Payne sure has Dickerson beat for workmanship and material. Dickerson 7012 (1954) from "the Lovely Reed". You could have chosen Tom Fulk's true arc taper as the norm and try to describe the deviations from that. Lyle Dickerson Spurred into rodmaking by losing his job in the great depression, Lyle Dickerson would go on to become one of the masters of the craft. 0.138 I would specifically urge all to look at the graphs. 0.153 Dickerson 8015 Guide Special By Jim Schaaf, 2458 - 11. An 8014, would be an 8' two piece, with a size 14 ferrule amidships. Rod Selection - Dickerson Tapers, < Home < Tips Area < Rod Selection < Dickerson Tapers, Can someone help me find the taper for the Dickerson 7613. Examples would be different techniques or methods used by restorationists and makers. Unknown, so I would hesitate to speculate. They were both practicing engineers! The top snake guide on the butt has a bit of a bend to it. Not that I very much care, these people have a perfect right to their willful ignorance. (Rich Jezioro). 0.266 For example, the 8013 taper I use is .202 at the ferrule end of the tip, and .212 at the ferrule end of the butt. 0.153 Remember that respect and civility is the goal of this board. (Jerry Foster), For some applications, like fishing dries from a drifting boat, it could be even a bit short. .350@40 By going a ferrule size larger, you do not have to cut into the power fibers as far on the butt end. Dickerson Rods For Sale 80 0.296 121171 He can correct this if he is still hanging around. . a 3 1/2 wt - were that possible. (four piece) carbon fiber fly rod blank (NOW IN A GLOSSY DARK GREEN) $70.00 9' 6" 5wt. 80 0.3 Acclaimed as one of the finest rod tapers ever conceived. They turn into 5 wts at about 60 feet, up till there, they are are 6 wts. (Peter Jones) I believe he told me he placed his roll casting hinge 10"-15" above the handle, depending on rod length. 0.248 (Bob Norwood). It seems that a Garrison-type taper with a straight, flat stress curve would be the most likely to be tolerable. Purchased item: Leonard 38 - Bamboo Vintage Fly Rod Reproduction Bob Thompson Jun 4, 2021 Helpful? To vary the straight line you can adjust the tip dimension. First, no one casts the same. (Robin Haywood), This would be very easy, but would impact on other desirable qualities. Why? .248@15 by Aransas.clarks 05/09/09 02:49, Post Some use this to define the average rod speed. 'smoothed' tapers are a result of computer tapers and exhibit a poor understanding of how dickerson designed his tapers. There are no great tapers and nobody invented anything. November - May Some good stuff here. It seems several people have made rods for a given ferrule size (Dickerson #) with a size larger Super-Z. .278@25 I figure it will still be a good rod even if the swell won't be apparent to the eyes. (Lew) Parks. by JohnI 05/09/09 04:06, Post So the data exists both ways in the spreadsheet. I just read this to myself and it's obviously as clear as mud! What physical characteristics make a taper roll cast well. Tuesday - Sunday, 10am to 4pm, Winter (Mark Wendt), Thanks Dennis! (Bob Norwood). All tapers are based solely or partially on the combinations of these basic deviations from the SLT. 0 .326 .180 If you want a starting point then make the rate of taper 20 thousandths per inch and hollow build to 50 or 60% of original wall thickness. Cynically, but I may not have entirely given up, yet. .232@10 DICKERSON 8013 RBS Special - 8' 2/2 - 5wt- honey colored - the legendary 8013 Special is an impressive and powerful med/fast action all-round trout -- taper miked from a Ray Bergman original shop rod. How drastically do you think it would change the action if I pushed the swell out in front of the handle? Unless that is what you are trying to achieve. Also, your shorthand doesn't describe where these changes take place, which is as equally as important as the changes themselves. These are our limited edition models, only released every few years. by avyoung 06/12/16 21:15, Post I would say it's a strong 7 wt, but it should work well with a 8 WF. 5 .326 .168 (Bret Reiter), I call this one a seven too. Obviously this has to be judicious, as there comes a point where the taper tends more towards an adjacent standard line weight. Measured over varnish. The 7613 is a wonderfully versatile taper, the rod is light in the hand, and is at home casting sizes #6 Muddlers to #16 Dry flies. 35 .186 .326 All of these factors when considered together give a better picture of the rod than any one does in isolation. 4 wt 0.0680 Varnish of 0.004 subtracted. 7613: 7'6" 2/2 5 wt. if you were to use this type of ferrule, you might choose one that has a 13/64ths opening on the top, and a 14/64ths opening on the bottom. 35 0.1695 As you know line weight do vary so maybe your 8 wt is my 7 wt, or something like that? I have made about 6 for auctions and as favors and all have been very well received and enjoyed. The last 7613 is a version by Todd Talsma, it is the strongest one a 6/7 wt similar to the 1952 model. To this Robin brings up the complications created by the weight and placement of ferrules etc. A straight line taper could be arbitrary, but in this case it is very specific to line weight. I am sure that the step-downs are important in copying the taper design exactly. Winston Rods. Somehow the "D" was either left off by me in the original posting or was lost in translation to David's site. 20 0.126 Jim Schaaf. If you're willing to accept our assumptions about varnish thickness and how to interpolate between measurements, then the table on the last page is the one to use. I'm off to the antipodes next year, and I'm hoping that the 7'6'' #5 that should be a #4 will go with me. If you know something different about Dickerson's typical varnsh coat, make the appropriate adjustment. Start out by choosing your fly rod, and follow it up with a visit to our collection of fly reels. How would you characterize their casting characteristics? This is, of course, wildly unsatisfactory, but all attempts to reduce the problem seem to last for only a short time. (Greg Reeves). As you got more line out the rod would flex deeper into the shaft. (Robin Haywood), Why don't you design some roll casting ability into every rod? 45 .212 under reel seat, The numbers listed below are from Banjos' rod, 0 .084 .238 But if you are just interested in a rod made on a Dickerson taper, then any number of qualified makers exist. John Pickard only way to go. 4070 Main Street, It also is fine on smaller streams. A Lyle Dickerson model 8014 bamboo fly rod, 8', 2-piece, 3-tip, and built for a #6 line. This taper, starting with a .068 tip dimension, makes a great middle distance 8' WF6 or 7-1/2' 5wt. Please allow up to 120 days for completion of your new rod. Measurements under the handle are obviously estimates. Thanks. The most interesting rods have a distinctive type of action, and a particular form and design, which is distinctive, and which seems to express a particular maker's vision. like .03%/inch. Summers & Co. - Womens Sports ApparelBob with Granddaughter Cara FlyfishingGreat Brown, Rainbow and Cutthroat Fly FishingOutdoor Writer and Used Book SalesFishing and Wing Shooting Guide ServiceGreat Lakes Charter FishingSporting JewlerCustom GunsmithingFine Hand EngravingFine Reel & Rod Cases, 90 River Road, EastTraverse City, Michigan 49696 USAPhone/Fax (231) 946-7923bobsummers@charter.net, 2222 - 7. The butt dimension at the ferrule is too large to fit in a 13/64. 45 .216 .375 It made a fine rod, but you have to smooth out the taper leading into and out of the 45 and 50" stations as the rod was designed for a step down ferrule. 0.232 I just put stepdown ferrules on my first rod, an 8014 Dickerson. by Lee Koch 06/12/16 21:18, Post In reading my post the tone seems a little harsh. The hatch did not materialize and the fish did not rise, which gave me time to think of such things. (Tim Pembroke), I wasn't aware of that but now that I've been told it does make perfect sense. 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