Then again for the same categories who were on rear detachment duties! Because according to the Army, they outrank me, sir.. Wonder if each Military Academy Of other branches has the same rule/regulation authority.??? Other notable assignments include working within the 2/320, United States Military Academy Preparatory School, Simon Center for the Professional Military Ethic. My first platoon leader was OCS, my other two were USMA. Cadets should know that they must earn respect. During cadet training we were paid at the rate of an E5. Subscribe to our email newsletter to receive exclusive news, updates, and concert schedules for the band. I'm popping into the conversation late, but I completely agree (not that you can argue with the regs). Both have an option for Cadets to be apart of a simultaneous membership program. In this case he/she is regularly assigned, potentially in an E3, E4, E5, or what have you spot. Youre right, Sergeant, a West Point cadet DOES outrank you. Sergeant Major Schlegel earned his Black Belt in Lean Six Sigma (Process Improvement) in 2016, and is actively involved in building the process improvement community at West Point. Other notable assignments include working within the 2/320th Field Artillery Regiment, 101st Airborne Division, serving as the Artillery Command Sergeant Major, 3rd Infantry Division, Fort Stewart, Georgia, and serving as the Corps G-3 Fires Sergeant Major XVIII Airborne Corps Headquarters at Fort Bragg, North Carolina. I request you review 600-20again. 133. Upon completion of Basic and Advanced Individual Training at Fort Sill, Oklahoma he began his military career as a Field Artillery Surveyor. that When in Charge, Be in Charge applies. That same reg AR 600-20, Command Policy specifically states they will be addressed as "Mr./Mrs./Miss/Ms./Cadet" not Sir or Mam. Scott welcomes story ideas and feedback on his articles, and can be reached athavokjournal@havokmedia.com. Unprofessional. Greetings from West Point and welcome to the Commandant's Corner. Every. The Commandant's Corner is a way to provide a direct channel of information about current cadet activities, leadership topics and other updates about the United States Military Academy's Corps of Cadets. The ones that get emotional about my post will reply as expected and miss the lesson altogether because they've been hard wired to respond that way. Im a Senior WO and I can personally attest to the height of arrogance the NCO Corps exercises today. Master Sergeant Loy Song has played in the Concert Band and Jazz Knights trumpet sections, was a founding member and lead singer of the Benny Havens Band, and is now a member of the Support Staff. I agree totally with enlisted not saluting a cadet. I the DC power device safe from accidental shock. Throughout his career as both an Airman and Civilian, he has served in numerous assignments at locations: n Chief, Public Works Fort Eustis, VA Jesus.. His approach to us was simple and he asked lots of questions about how to best kill tanks and he found that each man has their own method of how they like to do things and tactics they like or dislike and for what reasons. So cadets are included in the definition. The one group that actually gave us respect and tried to help and mentor us were the senior NCOs. Staff Sergeant Cardone earned her Bachelor of Music, magna cum laude, in . She graduated from Conway High School in 1989. Without our outstanding NCO Corps counterparts, there would be no outstanding officers. It is a chain of command situation. Payback is one reason to avoid it. We want to mold a new Officer to become a great leader we can always remember but there's a limit to what we're willing to do. A little ancient cadet history for anyone interested. West Point outlines quarantine, isolation guidelines in playbook April 1, 2020. Haha. The authors creative example about an NCO looking at a lugnut and an officer looking at the whole vehicle is nuts (bad humor). Command Sergeant Major Robert T. Craven 26th Command Sergeant Major United States Corps of Cadets, West Point CSM Robert T. Craven hails from Swords, Louisiana and enlisted in the U.S. Army in March 1995. The United States Military Academy (USMA), also known metonymically as West Point or simply as Army, is a United States service academy in West Point, New York.It was originally established as a fort, since it sits on strategic high ground overlooking the Hudson River with a scenic view, 50 miles (80 km) north of New York City. Boy if it wasn't entertainment at its best. Interestingly, one weekend I had a pass and visited a college friend at a nearby naval base where he was undergoing Navy Aviation Cadet training. Hope this was brief enough for you or TL:DR? By reg,they can't command or lead troops in the field. Serving the Rugged Professional", Survivor Outreach Services | Total Army Sponsorship | Safety, Human Resources | Civilian Expeditionary Workforce, U.S. Army Environmental Command | Assistant Secretary of the Army for Installations, Energy & Environment, HOSPITAL - Keller Army Community Hospital, Military Police and Religous Support Personnel, U.S Army MEDDAC- Keller Army Community Hospital, U.S Army DENTAC- West Point Dental Activity, United States Military Academy at West Point, Assistant Secretary of the Army for Installations, Energy & Environment. Something I wish I knew 50 years ago. Dont demand respect earn it. Cadets and NCOs do not salute one another. Master Sergeant Carla Loy Song became a member of the West Point Band in 2007. Most recently, CSM Craven was the Command Sergeant Major for the 5th Security Force Assistance Brigade (SFAB) at Joint Base Lewis-McChord, Washington. But only a complete cadidiot would get his or her cadet rank confused with an NCOs authority and influence. U.S. ARMY INSTALLATION MANAGEMENT COMMAND, "We Are the Army's Home - The rank of a cadet is for protocol issues alone such as where to stand in a receiving line or where to sit at a formal dinner. It's hilarious when reality trumps the entitlement issues of a newly hatched fetus. This would be wiser than placing a WP Year 1 cadet in charge of it. Joseph John Quichocho, 1SG E-8 RETIRED US ARMY. Technically. I wondered how he, as a senior NCO in a highly specialized unit, felt about having cadets around. I was an Air Force Aviation Cadet during the late 1950's. As the DGC, he manages Garrison staff operations in support of the United States Military Academy mission. This regulation shows that cadets rank after commissioned and warrant officers, but before NCOs. And if for one second you think any Infantrymen will ever do something that violates our Constitutional form of government, you've made the worst assumption of your young life. The reason you would place cadets above enlisted in the rank chart is because they will be officers. Mark C. Quander Brigadier General , US Army 79th Commandant of Cadets the Armed Forces of the United States (Army, Navy, Air Force, Marine Corps, Coast Guard), the commissioned corps of the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, and the commissioned corps of the Public Health Service She entered the military in March 1999 attending Basic Combat Training and Advanced Individual Training at Fort Jackson, South Carolina where she was awarded the MOS 75B Personnel . We are all us. I was one of Cohens blue to gold mustangs in the 90s. The best way to train cadets to be officers that their soldiers will look up to and their NCOs will respect is to treat them the way you want them to act. A little background: I received my commission as a 2LT in May 1987 after spending two years in the SMP where I was enrolled as a senior ROTC Cadet (MSIII and MSIV) while serving simultaneously in a National Guard Unit. "(3) Senior regularly assigned Army Soldier refers (in order of priority) to officers, WOs, cadets, NCOs, specialists, or privates present for duty unless they are ineligible under paragraphs 2-15 or 2-16." single time. Cadet Physical Program requirements still remain a priority April 1, 2020. I am an honorably discharged Veteran of the active Army. They don't even have a MOS/Branch assignment or anything else at this point. The cadet only holds E-6 equivalency. And you'll have to deal with the reality that there are better men out there and you may be in over your head but don't blame others for your shortcomings. Other courses attended include the U.S. Army Airborne School, Air Assault School, Combative Level 2, Master Resiliency Trainers Course, Battle Staff Course, First Sergeants Course, and the United States Army Force-Management Course. As SNCOs think of this as an opportunity to shape the Os of the future. WEST POINT, N.Y. - The chain of command for the U.S. While being true you must also realize there is a need for Commissioned Officers as well as Non Commissioned Officers. Now by chance he.be in a billet at some hq and psperwork comes in front of him about ration counts for personnel and what the job description calls for for a 3m Senior Cook requisition.. for his order.. what its called these days) hell be sble to understand better what the job description says. If married his spouse is always addressed a "Lady so and so.". I pray that you are only a LT yourself. Pro-Tip: Don't make a blog post, offer a comment section, then expect not to be schooled by your elders, especially when taking a condescending tone. The garrison supports a base population of over 16,500 Soldiers, Civilians, Family Members, and Contractors as well as supporting over 40,000 retirees in the area. He also volunteers with local community organizations such as Higher Ground Men's Group, Men of St. Joseph, and the Most Holy Trinity Catholic Choir. This gives cadets going into their final years of pre-commissioning training the opportunity to experience life in an active duty unit. I'm not a regular progression cadet so this is a better look at the situation. CSM Cravens military education includes all levels of the Non-Commissioned Officer Education System culminating with the United States Army Sergeants Major Academy. In other words, each the SNCO and the cadet would be functioning appropriately. This regulation shows that cadets rank after commissioned and warrant officers, but before NCOs. Sometimes, XO is a way of calling the commander or a head of a department in the organization. A (knight) officer is a commissioned officer and formally addressed as "SIR!" The cadet never will outrank a sergeant first class, master sergeant first sergeant sergeant major etc. -If you are a Soldier and you are still carrying around the trash attitude of the "good ole' days", it is most likely time for you to go. When you focus on things that scare you to death, always remember that those are your fears and we're not concerned with achieving the next rank or a nice review. So this cadet would already be embedded with the staff or command team or shadowing the Platoon Leader, and would most likely have some, albeit limited prior service. We only go to attention for officers. Only W1's, lacking a commission, are excepted from Art. No salute. Corps of Cadets has been announced and includes a strong group of varsity athletes. Dont take it as a sign of disrespect however. Speed is your friend in a convoy, never drive slower than the rest of the civilian traffic, that way when a bad guy is trying to catch up to your convoy, he sticks out big time and the rear vehicle can easily engage him. The only regularly assigned cadets are in the national guard or reserves as a SMP Cadet. Even after more than twenty years in uniform, it still surprises me what I dont know about my own profession, and what I still have to learn from my NCOs. It would have sent enough juice thru the not yet graduate nor commissioned idiots heart to stop. sgm guevara's awards and decorations include the bronze star, meritorious service medal (2nd award), the army commendation medal (3rd award), the army achievement medal (4th award), the master parachutist badge, the ranger tab, the pathfinder badge, the combat infantryman badge, the expert infantryman badge, the air assault badge, the el salvador Before anyone attacks me, I am a prior Army SSG who is now a MSIV Cadet (Active duty and Branched). It goes both ways and without Officers the Army would surely still fall apart. You can't lead if you don't know how to follow. 2-8. The reason "cadets" are even mention in a gentlemans role is due to long ago medieval social customs. United States Army Sergeant Major Academy 2003 Class 53 . I highly doubt any West Point graduate will magically "see the light" after reading my imput on this discussion. I respected his rank and expertise, but I detested him otherwise. Very interesting. I bet they could not even remember my name. Interestingly, when a graduating cadet received his commission, (there were no females in the cadet corps in those days), his commission was backdated 15 months to the date he entered the cadet program, giving him a lead on promotion to first lieutenant. While the other sources trained and commissioned officers for all USAF career fields, the Aviation Cadet Corps produced only pilots and navigators. After completion of basic training, he attended Advanced Individual Training at Fort Eustis, VA, where he completed the UH-60 Helicopter Repairman course. but after I had earned my keep so to speak he spent a lot of time teaching and mentoring this Dot head and when I was commissioned he took time off from his civilian job to come to the commissioning ceremony to congratulate me. "The purpose of West Point, therefore, is not to act as a glorified drill sergeant but to lay the foundation upon which a career in growth of military knowledge can be based and to accompany it by two indispensable additions; first, such a general education as educated . They are legally considered E-5 equivalent, and aren't Branch qualified. We're also the one demographic that gives the socialist/communists nightmares because they know they can't take us head on in any manner so they go through the younger people to reach their aims. Garrison Command Sergeant Major :: West Point U.S. Army Garrison West Point America's Oldest U.S. Army Garrison & Home to the United States Military Academy Command Sgt. I would argue that the NCO/CO rivalries have started as a result of more modern times as compared to past wars and generations and honestly it should stop. She has served as Operations NCOIC since 2017. His awards and decorations include the Legion of Merit (1OLC) Bronze Star Medal, the Defense Meritorious Service Medal, Meritorious Service Medal (3 OLC), Army Commendation Medal (4 OLC), Army Achievement Medal (2 OLC), Meritorious Unit Commendation, Good Conduct Medal (8th Award), National Defense Service Medal (2nd Award), Iraqi Campaign Medal, Afghan Campaign Medal with Campaign Star, Inherent Resolve Campaign Medal, Global War on Terrorism Expeditionary Medal, Global War on Terrorism Service Medal, Noncommissioned Officers Professional Development Ribbon with numeral 5, Army Service Ribbon, Overseas Service Ribbon, Parachutist Badge, Air Assault Badge, and Drill Sergeant Badge. Command Sergeant Major Fraser awards and decorations include: Meritorious Service Medal (1 SOLC, 1OLC), Army Commendation Medal (2 OLC), Army Achievement Medal (1 SOLC, 4 OLC), Presidential Unit Citation, Joint Meritorious Unit, Army Superior Unit, Army Good Conduct Medal (Numeral 6) Defense Service Medal, Kosovo Campaign Ribbon, Global War on Terrorism Expeditionary Medal, Global War on Terrorism Service Medal, Korean Defense Service Medal, Noncommissioned Officers Professional Development Ribbon (Numeral 5), Armed Forces Service Medal, Military Outstanding Volunteer Service Medal, Army Service Ribbon, Overseas Service Ribbons (Numeral 3), NATO Medal, Drill Sergeant Identification Badge, Drivers Badge, German Schuetzenschnur Marksmanship Award (Silver), a recipient of the Honorable Order of Saint Barbara, the Noble Patron of Honor, the Martyrdom of Saint Maurice, the COL Robert L. Manning Achievement Medal, and the Order of Horatio Gates Bronze Medal. One might argue that a cadet who is SMP, simultaneous membership program, would be regularly assigned. Medical students do not do anything on their own authority, and it would be illegal as they are unlicensed. They always forgot to take the safety bail/pin out of the RPG fuze and the round would just bounce off our Bradleys, lol. WO1s even as appointed Officers are subject to all provisions of the UCMJ even art 33. She graduated from Conway High School in 1989. Appreciate your reply. Somewhat surprised by this, and thinking back to my own experiences in CTLT, I asked why he felt that way. It was priceless to see the look of surprise on my former XOs face when I walked into my old unit on a drill weekend. No Salute should be required or rendered. I think not. . Corporal: Sergeant: Platoon Sergeant: Color sergeant: left sleeve only: First Sergeant: Regimental and Battalion Sergeant Major: Brigade Command Sergeant Major: Lieutenant: Color Lieutenant: Company Commander: Battalion Adjutant: Battalion . IMCOM Directorate - Training, n Deputy/Director Fort Bragg, NC Get off your high horse. When contracted you take the officer version of the oath as well. Holds the MOH, four Silver Stars, ten combat ribbons, CIB, is airborne qualified and ex special forces. If cadets, during this valuable leadership experience, are not given the chance to act as lieutenants and acting platoon leaders, then the whole CLTC program should be scrapped. My CTLT with D 1/47th IN (1983) was an amazing experience preparing me to enter an Army in transition, and the esprit de corps and commitment to duty extended from CPT Barber to every member of the command, even their temporary members (a USMA Cadet and me), with especially valuable membership from NCOs in the command. (Still, there is no need to salute them. We were enlisted in the Air Force for a two year enlistment. Imagine that, good ol Top didnt read the entire regulation, only the part that suited his narrativeshocked. He earned his Bachelor of Music in trumpet performance and music education from Ithaca College in Ithaca, New York. . Regarding saluting courtesy in the cadet corps. Its not so much AR, but UCMJ. Your submission has been received. How dare enlisted swine preside over a command position? I was recently in a conversation with a senior noncommissioned officer in an elite US Army unit, when the subject of CTLT came up. Share mutual respect and work together is the name of the game. So there I was no shot, at my first unit on JBLM, WA as a 2LT and I thought that based on what I was taught that you salute all superior officers. This essay is an unofficial expression of opinion; the views expressed are those of the author and not necessarily those of West Point, the Department of the Army, U.S. As a mom of a cadet thank you! WEST POINT, NY (Oct. 14, 2016) - The U.S. Army and the U.S . America's Oldest U.S. Army Garrison & Home to the United States Military Academy Mr. Erik D. Mitchell assumed the position of Deputy to the Garrison Commander, USAG West Point (IMCOM Directorate. Yes I have seen a misguided ROTC cadet DEMAND a salute from an E-9 once. Hell, we even had SGMs who wouldnt butter bars and 1LTs, unless you earned it by being high speed and they knew it. Be safe out there, use the "recon by fire" method if probing a road and drop to the ground when a frag is near you, the explosion goes up and away. Mr. Mitchell began his professional career in 1994, graduating of the United States Air Force Academy where he was a football letterman. Now, that is a perfect resolution. I was further saluted by all enlisted personnel I encountered on base. I hope this sheds some light on things. Command Sergeant Major Fraser has deployed to Kosovo and Iraq. You are not a leader because you graduated from an academy. ok Cadet, go right ahead. Thats what the reg says, but how does that work in practice? Both preflight and flight school were run under the traditional cadet model of upperclass and lowerclass where upperclassmen were responsible for much of the military training and discipline of the lowerclassmen. As an humorous aside, earlier I mentioned that the junior officers in my reserve unit treated cadets as little more than errand boys. Eight cadet-athletes were selected to leadership positions and will assume their duties Aug. 10. During my time in the regulars, I encountered a couple of West Point Grads who, in my opinion had amused contempt for enlisted personnel below the rank of E5. When a cadet has to leave the USAFA before graduation, he is assigned to a reserve unit with the rank of Airman 2C. In flight school cadets qualified for flight pay in addition to their regular pay. 319th Civil Engineering Squadron. In her free time, she enjoys spending time with her husband and two incredible sons. Requirements for a USAF Aviation Cadet at the time were two years of college and passing scores on a series of IQ and skills tests such as mathematics, logic, and spatial relations. When I contracted under the SMP I was administratively promoted to the rank and pay grade of E-5 ( I had served two years previously in the Army Reserve as a junior enlisted 11B). Command Sergeant Major Fraser military and civilian education include: Basic Leader Course, Advanced Leaders Course, Senior Leaders Course, US Army Drill Sergeant Academy, First Sergeant Course, United States Army Sergeants Major Academy, Garrison Pre-Command Course, Battalion Pre-Command Course, Command Sergeant Major Development Program, Master Resilience Training, HR Plans and Operations Course, Sexual Harassment and Sexual Assault Course, Battle Staff Course, Postal Supervisor, Postal Operations Course, Modern Army Combative Level I and II, Total Army Instructor Course, Equal Opportunity Leader Course, and Combat Lifesaver Course. You have to look at national guard and the reserves. I really liked the story and learned something as well having been a former SMP Cadet before I commissioned. $64.88 + $7.25 shipping . Rrrrr matey, were be that 3rd Lieutenant. She has also worked as a freelance designer for local musicians and events. As he worked in our platoon, we all quietly covered for him, especially when he got misoriented now and then (analog land nav isn't simple, especially when mounted) after a few months he was squared away and we taught him our secrets and he never betrayed us. Sergeant Major Jeremy Schlegel, from Hanover Township, Pennsylvania, joined the West Point Band in August of 2008. Commander Navy Region Europe, Southwest Asia, Africa, n Senior Advisor, Installation Management Kabul, Afghanistan Required fields are marked *. And taken that way. If you salute a cadet, who is not a commissioned officer you would be making the entire "First Salute" ceremony asinine if cadets had been entitled to salutes the entire time. Whoever came up with this interpretation needs to review deeper. Youre right, Sergeant, a West Point cadet DOES outrank you. Aviation Cadet training was 15 months. But having learned this, it made me wonder when this would actually matter in any meaningful way. So let me get this straight a probably well connect cadet who memorize info given to them as well as staying nice and tidy, as yet to graduate or earn a degree yet some how thinks that they are officers. MAJOR GENERAL MAXWELL D. TAYLOR Superintendent, U. S. Military Academy . Command Sergeant Major Fraser previous positions and assignments include G1 Sergeant Major, 13th Expeditionary Sustainment Command, Fort Hood, Texas; First Sergeant, Bravo Company and Reception Transition Unit, Fort Benning, Georgia; Senior Human Resources Sergeant, 501st Sustainment Brigade, Camp Carroll, Korea; Senior Human Resources Sergeant, 1st ABCT, Fort Riley, Kansas; Battalion S1 NCOIC, 2-4 FAR, Fort Sill, Oklahoma; Senior Drill Sergeant, B 2-39 INF REGT, Fort Jackson, South Carolina; Brigade S3 Operations Sergeant and Customer Support Branch, 1st PERSCOM, Schwetzingen, Germany; Personnel Administrative Sergeant, 87th CSSB, Fort Stewart, Georgia; Assistant Brigade Personnel Sergeant, Personnel Administrative NCO and Training Room NCO, 1st Brigade, Fort Stewart, Georgia. OK, fine. Oops! Here's my advise that will serve you well; always remember this; ASSUMPTIONS ARE THE MOTHER OF ALL FUCK UPS! More than likely you are just privileged. 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