I believe this is a huge factor. I believe that Albinos should not be bred but i am not an advocate of euthanizing them. Yes i agree dont breed for a color (but i do want a white) but for temperment and health i have seen dobies that are just ill tempered in any color. So sad I was really looking forward to puppies , You are unselfish. We have had white dobie who had many health problems such as Addisons disease, fear biter,Couldnt seeand Blue dobie who was the most beautiful boy Ive ever seen. She sees the vet for her yearly stuff. Some people are totally a-holeish about it. Jordan is a great dog but Cleo will always be that One special dog. Thanks, Ok this is crazy! Love your dog no matter what his/ her color is. He loves everyone, and everyone who meets him falls in love. The albinos are very hard to take care of i wish people would quit breeding them. Both times I had been down and treated for as long as three months and the MESOSILVER CURED ME IN TWO WEEKS! They cannot be shown and you will NEVER EVER find a Champion Albino Doberman. While they may appear striking they have skin problems and are prone to sun burn. I am looking for a blue and tan puppy to join her but the only litter I have found seems to be for a lady that has v negative feedback from. She is my baby! Ive been studying this breed for about 6 years now and I continue to learn so much. I USE Z FACTOR DOGS IN MY CURRENT LINE AS THEY ARE BEAUTIFUL & EXCELLENT MINDED DOGS! I believe you have them and you want to get rid of them. which makes them VERY smart. Spaying/neuterining is the equivalent of cutting out a womans ovaries or a mans testicles without their permission.would you like for your doctor to do this to you simply because he didnt think you should have children? Hey Marga, we find ourselves in your shoes. I just wish that humans would stop trying to breed dogs for what they think they should be and spoil the breeds! Just because you read one article, dont take it for fact. That is the only reason. Other than its color points, which immediately identify this dog as a Doberman, (or a branch of the ancient Rottweiler) the differences are so dramatic that it may need to be classified as a new breed. He is not fixed, and he is very unagressive accept to male dogs who barge into his territory. To Marcela Rodriguez; a friend had a blue dobie with skin issues you are experiencing. Its just cruel in my opinion to maintain purebred dogs when the mutts are so much healthier! They always have. I now have a black and tan female and a red male both 3 years old that I adopted. The youngest was 13 . Back to the people want the unusual, but dont realize how much work comes with it. Your right about euthanasia. standing up for the standard is what keeps our dobes as wonderful as they are furthering a trait that isnt considered correct (yeah if you love them its correct) then you might as well cross that awesome dobe with that great confirmation intelligence and temperament with a mutt. Dilutes are a financial commitment that some people just dont realize, and thats why you see so many on Craigslist and rescue groups. Though I imagine Albino and partial albino dobermans popped up all throughout its history. I have to sweep everyday, any help is would be appreciated. I must say I came to this site for help and I feel as though I have found out inevitably that my pup will have issues her whole life. I think many people dont want to admit the truth about albino dogs because it resonates with whites people having white skin which is also albinism. The genes are often recessive: a parent carrying a gene wont show any sign that they have it. meaning dont split hairs over whether or not its albino , or white when making a decision of to breed or not to breed . Special consideration should be taken that the Dobermans nails are kept short so that their feet remain healthy and cat like when standing. Personally Im o.k. A Black and Rust pedigree Doberman Pinscher has the same chance of being a carrier of poor, breed-specific, genes as the White. I find it offensive that they are still so many people who have such passionate feelings on the subject cant even do min. It saved my life TWICE! He couldnt handle the loss of his pack. The tails should have been docked by the breeder. If you regularly have visitors over to the house, this should do. Rumors have encircled the White Dobies for years. They are known as melanistic Dobermans. Who is the breeder. Spayed females had nine times higher incidence of hemangiosarcoma compared to intact females, regardless of when spaying was performed, however, no difference in incidence of this type of cancer was found for neutered vs. intact males. If you dont understand what Im talking about, reasearch the original european bulldogs. I would say its do-able with certain preparation. My heart goes out to you both. LOL We have plenty of Dogs and its always time for someones check up or booster shots. And I think most owners feed twice a day, in morning and evening or if your dog looks skinny. Recently lost our beloved 12 year old stroke and cardiac arrest and we have been so very devastated. VOILA!!! Its like saying youre partially pregnant. We take our walks in the evening and she wears sunscreen if we have to be in the sun for extended periods of time. I have to say that I havent found many things different between the two breeds except the hair. : ). They are evey bit the cherished Doberman Pinscher we all know and love. I have a 3wk old litter right now. Excellent post for a youngster, see my reply to the post below to see why you are right. Propaganda to scare people from breeding, even owning, a White or Cream Colored Dobe. This will continue to happen due to the affluent culture and the preferences of people. I love my babies period, but people just want what is unusual and what others dont have. I just lost my best friend to pheochromocytom had him for almost 9 years. And yes he is vicious. .. Once from the killer STAPH I got in the hospital during an appendix event. For all those saying AKC registers albino dobermans, the AKC also register puppy mill dogs, does that make it an acceptable practice? my first time breeding a dobe i got black, red, fawn, white and cream. While we did purchase her from a breeder (or so we thought) we have come to find out that she is very sick. I have several dobermans I have all colors including white she is a beautiful happy healthy 2 and a half year old she has no health problems. Once I took her to my vet, he notified me of the skin issues. We rescued him when he was 2 years old and its a good thing we didnt take to heart all the negative comments people write about them. Writer, have you never seen a Chihuahua? The environment is everything. It is just that Padula was the first one anyone tried to register. What a bunch of self- flattering snobbery, 1). They have KNOWN health issues far beyond the regular dobe. Just remember to ALWAYS monitor children with dogs. She bathed the dog in it and used in spray bottle as insect deterrent. with that. umm yes albinos can have blue eyes because the lack of pigmentation leads the iris to look opaque, therefore a pale icy blue. interested in white/black dobie. Seeing that only 6% of people voted for the fawn makes me sad. Educate yourself, you freaking twelve-year-olds. This gos for cats, dogs, horses, pigs and any thing else. I got him from a champion breeder and was hoping for a lot longer life with him. I think the main point about white Dobermans is that they should rarely be bred from both white parents. Dobermans Den is reader-supported. Back to my story: I was told moZart had increased risk of skin problems and eye problems. Im glad we were in the right place to give this sweet, HEALTHY dog a loving home. Many European countries have all but eliminated unwanted and stray dogs by cracking down on the behaviors that produce them. Not everyone wants one, and people are impressionable. They always will! A red female puppy this time. I made a broadcast post that we have adopted a 7 month old. Their healthy, extremely loved and they are both so attached to me. The White DobermanPinscher came from inbreeding and is considered apartial albino Doberman. What are the health risks for a red pup from a red dad and albino mother? I suppose you hold your beliefs deeply. The term "Doberman Pinscher" is primarily used in the United States and Canada while "Doberman" is used in the rest of the world. research. I wanted one that was very easy going, a little less territorial and on edge most of the time, because we had a lot of kids in and out of our home. There will of course be some adjustment as the dog learns whats expected in its new house. just because your white dog is healthy now doesnt mean it wont run into issues later. Well said sir. The pure ignorance (and arrogance) in a lot of these comments is overwhelming. Where to begin Ok my family purchased a blue Doberman pinscher in 2009 at roughly 2 months of age with tail docked I was given AKC paperwork regarding history of his lineage and AKC number. They tried the Bulldogge (the original, not the chunky lil chap with respiratory problems that people are ga-ga over today); Too vicious: tore the poachers to shreds before they could hang them as an example. You have the attitude of a twelve year old girl, though I would like to think you are older. Thank you , so sad anyone would want to encourage breeding white Dobermans, knowing the health problems they will have to endure. It takes two copies of the gene to be an albino. It aggravates me when people say things like that about breeding for the WRONG reasons! Get yourself another color more to your liking. They are just as loving as any other color. Hope you will sell me your dog. What about the thyroid condition that Dobes get? Breeding any dogs should be outlawed in my opinion the shelters are crowded with purebreds and mutts alike. Hi, Ive been thinking about breeding Dobermans but not sure. if these dogs , and i say if mind you have more health , and behaviour problems than the other dobermans please dont breed these white dogs . All of which are not albinoid. Yeah, I dont take her out in the middle of the day( we live in Florida) but I dont go out in the middle of the day either! White dobermans are great I have one he has no problems at all. She has a perfect Doberman physique and is unbelievably sweet and kind. I grew up with black and reds, and I would like to get another Black and a white. I see what is the problem with the white-ish doberman. Her eyes are a little sensitive to bright light until they adjust. I Had a red and Blond, I Loved this dog and Was the Smartest Dog I have ever had, I will Probably buy another registered Red and Blond , or I Might try a Black and tan this time either way this Dog will have a fantastic Life, Traveling and Being Spoiled!!! They are beautiful dogs and behave just as well as any other dobe. Feel free to join my group Doberman ReHome and Rescues. Some albino animals do have red or pink eyes because of the lack of pigmentation, what you are seeing the the blood behind their eyes. She has not health or behavior issues. Does that NOT send a red flag right there? No one has to be put down anymore these days. 88+ Purebred Doberman Haversham Puppy - l2sanpiero 88+ Purebred Doberman Haversham Puppy Hi animal lovers, I see you are looking for 88+ Purebred Doberman Haversham Puppy. Comic . Thinking I should get the Red female. Do you live in America? Only then will its fullest potential be discovered and documented. Additionally, Alaska just has to many kinds of cultures in the small parts that are accessible to support humans in numbers to have to embrace racial beliefs . your inbred dog still has unethical genetics. My black & rust male Doberman is wonderful. All breeds of everything has standards, standards change over time. 1. Bless u for trying anyway. To the person who spreads semi thought out racist comments you are comparing white Dobermans to insecure white people concluding with white people are unhealthy because of their skin being pale.Specifically that white people suffer from osteoporosis because they cannot go in the sun. But congrats on your all black doberman there are a few of us out here that want them to be recognized especially since all the false reports on them, and they are not from inbreeding. most shelter animals make wonderful pets. She has never had puppies despite constant companionship from a male who isnt fixed. This breed of dogs originated in Germany where it was distributed all over the world. I would not buy one and encourage their breeding. We love our Porsche, but not all is well that looks well. Her mother Aries-color-Black/Rust. If you believe that this is not a good practice, then maybe you should educate yourself about WHY there is a reason it is frowned upon. We also own a blue female and she has been much easier to take care of. Its all about the buck and nothing to do with bettering the breed as a whole. In my opinion if yo decide to breed the it should be a z to a non-z this is just me and i know that somebody will chew me out behind it but we all humans come from 2 people. With the right training and socializing, any dog can be a perfect fit. Theres also no such thing as partially albino. The population of white tigers is also too small and probably somewhat inbred to realistically test this theory. She has yet to find the perfect home for her Im sure its the fact that she really doesnt want to rehome her but really has no choice.. The other from Lyme Disease. Im saying white dobes arent albinoid, but Im saying its not fact. Do you know which Doberman colors are recognized or restricted by kennel clubs? Third problem: our moZart sufferes from lick granuloma issues and benign lipoma tumors (6) in total! I have been a little crazy since as he is like yours, just as friendly and loving as can be and a little velcro. We are 68 and 72 and are no longer up to raising a rambunctious pup. By its first year the poor girl was blind, covered in sores from being in the sun without sunscreen and the animal got cancer in its liver and died before it was 4 years old. The AKC doesnt decide the requirements for the show ring That would be the breed clubs. I believe those batteries that have been discovered from days of old, using vinegar, were possibly used for making colloidal silver! Now everyone take a moment and lets think about how long dobs have been around ? Christine your unhinged rabid defensive response suggests you likely own a white dobie and feel hurt by those facts presented. To make things even more confusing, you also have a "Dobermann" (spelled with two n's) to add to the mix. My oldest Cream/white is almost 12. I think the people on here telling others that breeding a dog for a look is bad should really stop and think about what theyre saying. But I cannot feel anything other than grateful, because I feel as though we have rescued her. Treat them right and the will do the same. Dobermans are forever loyal and will always stay by your side. I will say the bad press about white/cream does not help. There is no health issues nor do they have behavioral issues, I find it funny when people say they are bad but have never had or seen one in person lol. Their nose is pink usually and skin. I agree with you and on a recent visit to the vet with our new rescue he was pleased to see that he was 2 yrs old before neutering (we have no choice when getting a rescue) because he said recent studies showed a 15% reduction in cancers if neutered at 2 years AS COMPARED TO NEUTERING AS A PUPPY). only bred to look americanized for the show.. And nothing like what they wer origanly bred for. I have previously had 4dobies and one of them was born deformed. Cleo spoilt me because of her oober intelligence so went for a Weimaraner next Emma was bright but no Cleo! Come North of Canada. If you have a white and healthy doberman consider yourself lucky. They just happen to, every now and then, come in White or Cream. A. Im like you not wanting a puppy, but a 2-4 year old. Weimie ?:). FOR HEALTH Mystic Pink. Their mothers are forced to have what they dont want then toss then aside because none of the do gooders want them so they get fostered. The genetic mutation that occurs to create the white coat is not the same of that that occurs in albino dogs. We love our Porsche and are learning to adapt. There are people in this terribly troubled and divisive world that dont deserve to have the loyalty and unconditional love that most any dog will give openly and freely, even if they do not receive the same comfort and respect from their companion. His appearance is that of a GS trapped in a Dobie body. Follow up will be in 2020, but until then no meds nor restrictions are prescribed. I took four semesters in genetic based studies just for shiggles; this stuff is easy to understand if you just READ. When you purchase puppies the price is based on quality of desired traits. Another Dobie for us, please. All our worries were put to rest. Go to the pound and get the dog of your choice. His name was DINO. Ill never forget them. Many people crave having cute and adorable healthy pets. [2] The Dobermann has a long muzzle. ?She starts her puppy training tonight! Three years ago I had the same concern. Hope you will sell me your dog. Which at this point is all it is. This will continue to happen regardless of how many people are advocates for or against a particular trait. I struggle with my two red Dobermans shedding, what can I do if anything. Congrats. Its soooo cute but his skin is very sensitive and I would like to know if you can share some products to take car of it. Usually, the average cost of purchasing a pet quality puppy from a reputable breeder is about $1,200 to $2,500. I never had a Doberman before but I love ours even if my wallet has palpitations when going to the vet for dog related issues! I cant imagine life without a Dober-girl/boy by my side. I have two Dobermans both female a red/rust and white/cream. Both are great but only with a reputable breeder. Maybe you should be the one doing more research. We are to blame for not doing research prior to getting her. Its done that to me too. Black and rust . She has NO health or behavior problems what so ever. Shes a doll, and we dont have any issues, but its crap about her eyes being normal. But i would not recommand to buy a white. I've seen pictures of other coated Dobes, but none had tht much hair. ok, not all white dobes are unhelthy. Additional advice to the owners. Having nearly 50 years experience with this breed, the one thing to keep in mind is there are known issues which even many who have absolute whites are not aware of and have no understanding of why their dog behaves or reacts certain way. NO health issues or behavioral issues at all! I would also like to add that the leading mfr of dog food is and has been a problem for us, having lost several dogs to cancer. Shes a happy girl, and makes us happy too. She has always lived inside out of the sun. Andreawong.jgk@gmail.com. We rescued our white dobie. Whites have been insecure about this fact and rewrote history to try and make white skin more attractive when it is in fact inferior and a genetic mutation. It is difficult to analyse why the Caucasian colour originated in humans presumably because melanistic colouration was not particularly needed in the Northern Hemisphere of our planet. Average $1200 - $2500 USD. It was so horrible, but she was always such a love bug and anyone that met her loved and adored our dobe. Bad genetics is bad genetics, any animal thats entire blood line can be traced back to a single individual is badly inbreed. The two girls together are amazing. With time, love and patience he will become the dog god intended him to be. Im sorry your new puppy has a heart murmur!! My white doberman is perfectly healthy, with show quality disposition and features. Perhaps through pain or just lifes experiences have instilled, branded them deeply into your heart and spirit. hello I want buy the 5 Doberman with the 5 different color can you help me to buy this puppy from the best quality and best price can you offer me the best club or if you have this puppy sale to me please help me please sent a message to me via my email:moalfez01@gmail.com. What does it matter what colour a dog is. Thanks. They have a small amount of pigment, which makes the coat cream and the eyes blue. Myself I dont like akc I would rather deal with A.P.R.I. i guess im d only one in the philippines dat owns a white doberman..as i have been breeding red,blue,isabella and black Now my family is waiting for our new 3 months blue doberman. I am concerned that our rather flawed, poorly evidence-based opinions may rob us of the pleasure of some lovely animals. My daughter breeds dobermans for the better of the breed, she can tell you all you need to know and more of what you want to know. It is a FACT they are prone to way more health problems than the other color variations. No tail cutting should be done after and only by vet. Being out on the street to cause a problem or die a painful death. Its easier to do research than you think. 14,568 votes were collected over five years. My first Black and Tan female won my mother over after the first day. Most of the diseases and illnesses recorded in white dobes are nearly constant in other breeds of dogs, regardless of coloration. 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